Caroline
Natzler
Caroline Natzler is a poet and creative writing teacher. Her first book was a collection of autobiographically based short stories, Water Wings, published by Onlywomen Press. Her poetry collections are Speaking the Wetlands (Pikestaff Press), Design Fault (Flambard Press), Smart Dust (Grenadine Press) and Fold (Hearing Eye). She teaches at the City Lit in London and also runs small private classes.
At Last
I slip along the organised, brimming canals
remember no dreams
aware of the holes in the sides
water bubbling in and out
the growing rings within the trees as I pass.
I know how to steer, hold true.
All I have to do is given me,
routines like the comfort of pets
as if this were home.
from FOLD (Hearing Eye)
? How old were you when you started writing poetry?
I
don’t know when I first started writing poetry, but the first poem
that was published was when I was 13 and a half. It was called The
Magic Glass and was a lyrical, dreamy poem about the light patterns
thrown by a glass (of water I assume!) on our polished wood dining
room table. A magazine for teenagers called The Young Elizabethan
paid me, I think, ten shillings and my mother was delighted and said
maybe I would be a writer. That is a moment I treasure; she had
wanted to be a writer and I feel lucky to have been able to fulfill
her dream, by proxy as it were, as well as my own.
? What
was it which first prompted the urge to write?
Probably
being quite shy and finding it difficult to voice my inner feelings
any other way. And just some sense that writing would reach the
heart of - what, I don’t know - not just my experience but the
truth of things. For longer than I care to admit, and for long after
I ceased being religious in any obvious sense, I felt writing was
akin to prayer, that my writing would reach whatever creative force
moved the world into being. I really only stopped feeling this when
my mother died; the poem Mother in Smart Dust tries to explore this.
? Do
you have a specific writing process?
No.
But I think there are two patterns at the moment; sometimes an
experience, a thought, a feeling, an image will just come, quite
urgently; other times I have to sit down and force myself to do a
writing exercise to prompt a poem. Either way I usually work on a
poem intermittently through the weeks or months, jotting things down
in my notebook wherever I happen to be, or working on it at home.
? Do
you prefer music or silence when you write?
If
I’m at home doing any sustained work on my poetry I need silence,
though as much of the work is done when I’m walking around, on the
train etc I accept the background noise I suppose.
? Has
your legal background hindered or helped your writing process?
An
interesting question! I don’t like to think I have a legal
background as that part of my life always feels like a mistake,
although I worked in the voluntary and public sectors so I don’t
feel politically or morally compromised! Perhaps the habits of
mental discipline and accuracy helped, though I was always a careful
thinker and writer.
? You
also teach writing. Can this get in the way of your creative
process?
When
I started teaching I did feel the work drew fire from my own
writing. I became more self-critical, (since so many of my students
wrote well!) and much of my creativity went into devising approaches
and exercises for my classes. I felt teaching had stolen the
pleasure away from writing and that writing was no longer a private,
intimate activity but part of my public identity. Publishing also
had that effect initially. By now the teaching and the writing fit
quite seamlessly into my life.
? How
much time do you spend reworking a poem?
I
think I’ve answered that question earlier. Occasionally a poem
will slip out fully formed, as January did (in my new collection
Fold), but normally it takes between 3 weeks, say, and 6 months of
intermittent work before I’m either happy with it or have to
resign myself to binning it, maybe saving one image or phrase to
generate a new poem.
? You
chose a feature poem for this inteview. Can you say why?
I
agonised over which poem should be the featured one but eventually
decided on At Last (from Fold) as it has elements I’m pleased with
and is interesting in relation to the poetic process.
I
like its mystery and its simplicity. I like the uneasy balance
between calm,
order, fulfillment,
living in the present; and awareness of time, change,
mortality.
And
it amuses me whenever I read it for two personal reasons.
“the
growing rings within the trees” came from an exercise where I’d
referred to the
plastic rings which are coiled around the arm of my angle-
poise
desk lamp. The mutations that happen in the course of writing a poem
can
be quite surprising.
The
other reason it makes me smile is that I’ve never owned pets and,
as
far
as I know, I don’t want to. Yet the line “routines like the
comfort of pets”
feels
right. I become a slightly different person when writing, or my
subconscious gets a
look-in!
All Caroline's collections are available through Amazon.
Experienced writers interested in Caroline's small group sessions are welcome to apply. If there is a space in a group she may ask to meet and read some work. Caroline can be contacted at carolinenatzler@hotmail.co.uk
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